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Recap: Hawk vs Wolf EP 184




Andy Anderson and Rodney Mullen, both recovering from injuries, joined Tony Hawk and Jason Ellis on Episode 184 of Hawk vs. Wolf. This episode is a deep dive into skateboarding culture, personal growth, and the mindset of legends. It’s a must-listen for fans of the sport and anyone seeking inspiration.


Here are some key highlights i wrote down from the episode:

  • Acknowledging Inspirations:

    • Andy reflects on Rodney's iconic Venice Pavilion table scene from a Globe video and relates it to his own Swatch ad.

    • Jason credits Andy for inspiring him to find joy in skating again, saying, "I was caught in a rut thinking certain tricks weren't cool."

  • The Relationship with Pain:

    • The group discusses their experiences with injuries, back pain, and even horse-related stories, highlighting how pain has shaped their skating journeys.

  • Devil Voice vs. God Voice (Jason's Perspective):

    • Jason shares insights on distinguishing destructive "devil voices" from encouraging "god voices" in his head. He describes how recognizing the difference makes dismissing negativity easier, often laughing at the "devil voice" with a simple, "Psh, yeah right. No chance."

  • Key Philosophies Shared:

    • "Feed the Good Wolf"—prioritize positivity and strength.

    • "Be on the Alert"—good, bad, and evil can sometimes look similar, requiring vigilance to distinguish them.

    • Being exposed to darkness helps in appreciating light and clarity.

    • Rejecting mediocrity: "Phoning it in" is never acceptable.

  • Rodney’s Post-Tournament Reflection:

    • Rodney describes watching Tony Hawk win tournaments and feeling liberated afterward, motivating him to push harder in his own skating.

  • Inspirations Beyond Skateboarding:

    • Learning spatial awareness from trampolines.

    • Exploring the balance between competitiveness and the artistry that fuels their passion.

  • A Shared Mindset:

    • The group notes how they are "wired the same" when it comes to skating, passion, and life.



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